Additional patforms

Here are some games that need platforms (tags) to de added. I'll post linked games following the tags that are needed to be added.

• Alex Kidd in Miracle World - Wii
• Alex Kidd in Shinobi World - Wii
• Alien crush - Wii
• Altered beast - Wii
• Bakugan Battle Brawlers: Defenders of the Core - Wii and XBOX 360
• Beyond Good & Evil - PS3 and XBOX 360
• Bio Miracle Bokutte Upa - Wii
• Bit Trip Beat - 3DS and Wii
• BIT.TRIP Presents… Runner 2: Future Legend of Rhythm Alien - PS4
• Brawlhalla - Switch
• Clu clu land - GBA and Wii
• Columns - Wii
• Crazy Taxi - PS3 and XBOX 360
• Crazy Taxi 2 - PSP
• Doom Classic Complete - PC
• Knuckles The Echidna In Sonic The Hedgehog 2 - Wii
• Metal Slug XX - PS Vita, PS4, XBOX 360 and XBOX ONE
• Prehistorik man - Switch
• Sonic 3D Blast - Wii
• Sonic the hedgehog 1, and 2 - Wii
• Star Wars: Episode 1 Racer - PS4, Switch and XBOX ONE

More games will be posted in future.

Are you serious, Zimer ? 🤔
Do you remember the Missing platforms 2 topic, where you basically already proposed to group original games with Wii ?
You never answered to my questions since 2019, but I also never opened a cheating topic for you about this.
But now that we know different details about you and gameplay differences, and that a cheating topic is opened for you, you are trying to overcome all that was said...
How dare you to totally ignore this, VGR rankings and members ?

VC gameplays (Wii) is exactly the same than Original and savestates are not available in Wii.

PMniac has said that many times.

Article Nintendo

Informations importantes concernant la fermeture de la chaîne boutique Wii

29/09/2017

En 2019, la chaîne boutique Wii ouverte depuis décembre 2006 et utilisée sur la Wii et la Wii U (la chaîne boutique Wii étant accessible sur Wii U via la fonctionnalité de rétrocompatibilité avec la Wii) cessera d'exister. Nous souhaitons remercier nos fidèles clients pour avoir apporté leur soutien à la chaîne boutique Wii et nous espérons qu'ils continueront d'apprécier leurs logiciels téléchargés depuis la boutique.

Nous prévoyons de fermer tous les services relatifs à la chaîne boutique Wii, comme l'achat de titres WiiWare, de logiciels de la console virtuelle, le téléchargement de chaînes Wii, et l'utilisation de l'outil de transfert Wii U qui permet de transférer des données de la Wii à la Wii U.

Date de fermeture de chaque service

• L'ajout de points à la chaîne boutique Wii : lundi 26 mars 2018 à 22h.
• L'achat de titres WiiWare, de logiciels de la console virtuelle, le téléchargement de chaînes Wii (y compris les logiciels gratuits)* : jeudi 31 janvier 2019 à 7h.
• La fermeture complète de la chaîne boutique Wii et la désactivation des fonctions pour retélécharger des logiciels se feront en 2019 (de plus amples informations seront communiquées ultérieurement).

* Avec certaines exceptions, il est possible de retélécharger des logiciels WiiWare, console virtuelle et des chaînes Wii précédemment téléchargés jusqu'à la fermeture complète de la chaîne boutique Wii en 2019.

I have Wii, but i can't buy Virtual Console...
So now, i wait a Council Investigation about this ;)

Zimer, you're wrong. 
Even now that we (finally) know that you don't own original games and systems, you (logically) continue to ignore the differences that exists in Wii Virtual Console.

(Discord, general topic, last 4th July 2021):

Triple HHH : "they are 1 Save State if you shutdown the game for the 1st time !!"
PMniac: "the only feature that Wii VC has, it that you can close your game, and turn off your console
and when you start you play from where you left
like PAUSE feature"

So we are now certain (or almost) that we also need to separate Wii VC games from original ones.
This is still in discussion, but Council have now more elements to take decisions.
I agree this is not the same savestate type as for Classics games or Mini systems.
But there is a real difference of gameplay there, due to the presence of this "pause-savestate", which can give huge advantage in many games (and independantly of Zimer's case who probably used a lot).
So, of course, we will not add Zimer's suggestions until this ask for separation is fixed.
 

All I have to say is that VGR could learn a thing or 2 from CyberScore.
Pausing doesn't affect your score in any way, if your run for the score dies, there's no way back.
I don't know why VGR makes such a thing about WiiVC

Exactly. I use Classic games as a training and the true test is replicate in Wii/Original like I did in Sonic games.

If that happen, how VGR would know if a user played in VC or not (don't include me or PMniac)? It would be a problem investigate every user in VGR.

So on Cyberscore, Wii VC is splitted on this game : Pokemon Snap
Anyone can explain me the reason why ?

If one game is splitted, why not the others ?

PMniac, can you tell me why Pokemon Snap is splitted, thanks in advance.

Ironically the answer to that question was done last month on CyberScore discord server xD

All kind of VC games are mixed in CS and it seems that have worked well. At least Original/Wii should be stay as well. As other user said, this could cause a lot of dead of leaderboards.

It seems that soon new VC games will appear for Switch for N64 and Megadrive.

Ce que vous avez du mal à comprendre, c'est l'égalité pour Tous !

Avec la VC, vous pouvez jouer à plein de jeux ET à la version que vous voulez... Le problème que j'ai ici, c'est que vous utilisez la meilleure version permettant de faire le plus gros score. Et ce choix est fait uniquement par vous seul et vous vous permettez de poster des scores "versions mixées"...

Exemple : Sonic 1 : Lab Zone 1 : 110 Rings !!! (VC ou non)

Ce score en PAL est impossible... 1 Ring n'existe pas et vous postez tout de même...

L'exploitation de versions différentes et de poster sur VGR dans une autre versions, j'appel ceci tricher, oui.
Arrêtez de comparer VGR avec Cyberscore ou Speedrun...
Ce n'est pas parce que tels ou tels Site font d'une manière qu'il ne se trompe pas et que VGR doit faire pareil.

Sur Speedrun, les joueurs choisissent la meilleur version pour faire leurs temps,

• Zelda Switch, est rushé en FR !! (meilleurs versions pour les speedruns)
• Tomb Raider II version Allemande (celle qui a les plus de glitchs disponible)
• etc...

Tous les membres doivent être égaux, tous ensemble, jouons avec les mêmes armes et amusons nous à version égale.

Donc pour moi, et je dis bien qu'il ne s'agit que de mon point de vue.

La Virtual Console devrait avoir Son Propre Support : VC Nintendo avec la liste des jeux comme pour les Supports "Mini". Certains glitchs sont possibles uniquement sur VC et non sur l'original et comment pouvez vous affirmer que tout les jeux sont pareils... Certaines failles ne sont peu être tout simplement pas encore découverte.

What you have a hard time understanding is equality for all!

With the VC, you can play lots of games AND the version you want... The problem I have here is that you are using the best version to make the biggest score. And this choice is made only by you alone and you allow yourself to post "mixed versions" scores...

Example: Sonic 1: Lab Zone 1: 110 Rings !!! (VC or not)

This score in PAL is impossible... 1 Ring does not exist and you post all the same...

Exploiting different versions and posting on VGR in another version, I call this cheating, yes.
Stop comparing VGR with Cyberscore or Speedrun...
It is not because this or that Site does in a way that it is not mistaken and that VGR must do the same.

On Speedrun, players choose the best version to do their time,

• Zelda Switch, is rushed in FR !! (best versions for speedruns)
• Tomb Raider II German version (the one with the most glitches available)
  etc...

All members must be equal, all together, let's play with the same weapons and have fun with equal version.

So for me, and I say that this is only my point of view.

The Virtual Console should have its own Support: Nintendo VC with the list of games as for the "Mini" Supports. Some glitches are only possible on VC and not on the original and how can you say that all games are the same... Some flaws may not be discovered yet.

Totally agree with you, Triple HHH.

What Zimer (or even other site) not yet understood, or maybe voluntary forget, is the most important thing when you are searching for comparison, have fun with it, and be proud of it: 
equality of the conditions.
Zimer should not think about his own personal case (or records), and be more responsible.

Now we finally know that Wii VC has not the same conditions ("pause-savestate" feature, for reminder) as original games, we need to think about its split.

VC doesn't have versions/variations to choose.

Wrong with your example TripleHHH, PMniac has 110 rings in VC for PAL. Give an example of game of VC game that have a GLITCH that can be executed in VC and not original. Personally I haven't found one.

My request of split some Super Mario Bros games have been waiting over than 3 years between PAL and NTSC.

Lap Skip on Donut Plain on Super Mario Kart (Snes) only available on Wii VC.

Wrong with your example TripleHHH, PMniac has 110 rings in VC for PAL

In this Original, they are only 109...
You can obtain 110 Rings with other version.

Yes, you can choose VC PAL & VC NTSC. 

Just because you don't ignore something doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

And how I could choose VC PAL and VC NTSC?

In some games I prefer disadventages.

And what is about WarioWare Inc? GBA/WiiU vs GameCube. Some charts that exist in GameCube are not available for GBA/WiiU and viceversa.

https://cyberscore.me.uk/chart/172599

This Chart on Cyberscore... Wii, PC, Genesis, DSi, 3DS on the same chart ?

110 rings is possible, Yes !! Pmniac cheat to obtain this No !!

But you need a good version with 110 Rings. So version is a problem for me.

Wario Ware inc GBA can be use on GameCube, but if the GameCube version is not the same, the game must be splitted. Personnal opinion of course. You can use Game GBA on GBA, Nintendo DS and GameCube.

So, for me this is 2 differents Game.

1. Warioware GBA can be play on GBA, NDS, GameCube
2. Warioware Gamecube Only

Some Charts are the same (maybe, i don't know), but they are other charts on this 2 Titles, so 2 Games on VGR.

I think i'm right on this ;)

Sonic The Hedgehog - Labyrinth Act 1 has an extra ring on a different revision of the game.

"There is one extra ring in Labyrinth Zone Act 1 of Revision 01"

https://tcrf.net/Sonic_the_Hedgehog_(Genesis)#Object_Layout_Differences

Super Mario Bros 3 should be splitted between NTSC and PAL.

But all mixed plattforms should stay at this moment with this rule for Time Remaining charts: "Video proof only."

My scores haven't been submitted.

Just a reminder of this topic, which is central in Zimer's case, I don't forget it.
Since 30th August 2021, we also know that Zimer played Genesis games (and all the 90's retro games) with the Wii Virtual Console.

For many reasons, unfortunately no Council meeting was made since this topic was opened. Because beyond this topic, I will of course report its correlated and important general things to discuss:
- original games/Wii VC games split
- Wii games (so Wii VC included) deactivation