[N64E]speedruntrainer

This player use DosBox emulator to play at 

• Lemmings (PC)
• Oh No ! More Lemmings (PC)

You can see this on his proof, because fullscreen is disable ;)

example here :

Thanks.

DOSBox is needed for a single reason: games that you mentionated are from 90s decade and are impossible to play in current PC due compartibilities.

You would have to travel to 90s and get a PC from that era with their respective games. Or get a PC in this era with operative system of 90s (Windows 95) which is extinted.

RetroGenie surely played the game with this tool. 

MBAcymru is not playing with DOSBox tool since a password is given which is the key of levels and his proofs doesn't give any clue about which level was played and wrampi is playing in SNES version which score system is different.

Check this chart. Due number of unproven scores we can't know if the rest of players are using PC (90s) or another plattform. Whle you was out, plattforms started to get splitted around 10 years ago.

DOSBox is needed for a single reason: games that you mentionated are from 90s decade and are impossible to play in current PC due compartibilities.

You would have to travel to 90s and get a PC from that era with their respective games. Or get a PC in this era with operative system of 90s (Windows 95) which is extinted. Zimer

It's just in case you edit this post ;)

If you don't possess an old computer, yes you cannot play this game ;), so emulated...

This player : MBAcymru play this game to ! But, he use the Windows 95 version (screen proof), not a emulation ;)

Yes, i know for wrampi (snes version), i see that ;)

I don't have Atari System, it's old ok, so for you, i can emulate... ? 
Thanks you very much.

cheers.

I checked details. Game has 2 versions, 91 and 95, 95 can't be proven by pictures while 91, yes.

DOSBox works as virtual machine in these days. Also savestates are not included.

Why do you tell me Savestate ?? i don't say you use it, i just say DosBox it's an emulation ;)

Wikipédia Dosbox

Normally emulators have them. DOSBox tool not. Surely other users used DOSBox for old PC games.

With this chart, at least CiaraJansonFan, otti and Ryuto BCL are not playing in PC, they are playing in SNES since 99% is impossible for this particular chart in PC.

We must wait an Admin reaction,

For information, score unproven that not mean Wrong version ;)

Yes, i'm agree with you, VGR and all members ignore the system used without proof, but it's possible to play on old computer to. Maybe Admin tolerate DOSBox, i report only the problem, because isn't clear for me.

I think for now the rules about emulations are made for console games and not clearly made for PC and now mobiles games.

A pure anti emulation guy will say, for PC it's the same as console so if you want play an old game just buy/found it, and buy an old PC like a NES game and NES console.

But as you see on VGR, we have now Windows 10 and WIndows 8 platforms but for old one we have only 'PC' so no MS-DOS, DOS, Windows 95, Windows 98 etc.. so technically for now we don't require a specific system for old game with 'PC' as support. 

So a fair way of thinking is it's okay for me until we migrate game on specific support like Windows 95 for example because technically we just require a PC and it's the case. By the way for PC the term generic is not emulation but virtualisation on this tool. And for now Virtualisation is not clearly deal and not written on the rules.

That's my opinion.

So there's a lot of discussion to be had on emulation, particularly with DOSbox and BlueStacks, both of which I strongly believe should be unambiguously allowed. But that's not actually necessary here!

This is what the emulation rule prohibits:

Unofficial emulated games (emulated games: replicated game on a platform it had not been developed for)

In this case, the game was developed for PC, and is being run on a PC. Ergo, it's not against the rules, based on the rules' own definition of what constitutes an "emulated game".

Given that every argument against emulation has absolutely zero relevancy to DOSbox, and the obvious safety concerns of asking users to genuinely use an Operating System more than two decades out of date, it's hard to make any case against using it when the rules as written allow it anyway.

A pure anti emulation guy will say, for PC it's the same as console so if you want play an old game just buy/found it, and buy an old PC like a NES game and NES console. Djon

Tell about me how do you want, no problem. 

But, this is my right to obtain explication to clarify the situation, no more. So you explain me it's virtualisation not emulation, i understand a few better. But DOSBox Pure in development as a Save/State, so it's emulation of virtualisation, that you explain me, so DOSBox Pure need to be prohibited here right ?

So i can use DosBox on PC to without problem, i want respect the rules VGR( i don't want loose my time), that's why i report this.

So it's a obsolete game and look this topic. I follow the VGR rules to ;)

Also is possible to play these games online. I wanted to play Gauntlet II online and after in DOSBox, result with controllers is terrible.

DOSBox should be allowed.

English by google
nothing forbids the emulation of a windows 95 from my windows 10 to run my old games.
suddenly if GOG or Steam offers games that will end up with one more tool to make it compatible with Windows 10, they will end up a bit like the virtual console, legally allowing old games to be played on recent devices.
the difficulty as always, is to know if it is emulated to be able to benefit from an unofficial and illegal version, or if it is bought and that everyone ends up with the same version for a healthy competition .
it's a bit like back in the days with the Nintendo dual screen and the R4, no way to know if he played with an original game or a substantially different version.

Français
rien n'interdit, l'émulation d'un windows 95 depuis mon windows 10 pour faire tourner mes vieux jeux.
du coup si GOG ou Steam propose des jeux qui vont se retrouver avec un outils en plus pour le rendre compatible windows 10, ils vont se retrouver un peu comme la virtual console, permettre légalement de faire jouer des vieux jeux sur appareil recent.
la difficulté comme à chaque fois, c'est de savoir s'il est émulé pour pouvoir profité d'une version non officiel et illégal, ou si c'est acheté et que tout le monde se retrouve avec la meme version pour une compétition saine.
c'est un peu comme à l'époque avec la Nintendo dual screen et le R4, aucun moyen de savoir s'il joué avec un jeu d'origine ou une version potentiellement différente.