Different rules for each games

As discussed in the Zelda topic, it was recommended I post a new topic about this.

Mario 64(sorry to bring this game up again)  - This category is another example. There are many players with legit scores, and this is considered the max. It could take a player a couple of hours to get to 141, all Zimer** has to do is **** about with a box for a few minutes and beat the max. The glitch has a huge effect on the record

My recommendation is that all records above what is considered the max coins per level are edited so they match the maximum. All the players who have posted tallies above maximum have demonstrated that they have the max by legit means, so record deletion would not be necessary. The glitches used to get these tallies are luck based, and require little to no skill.

I will however accept any decision that is made by the admins

I also don't like this glitch, i can't do even one ;(
I had luck clone 1 or 2 coins on 1st map xD

i had no problem if we forbitt this glitch and set all other back to the \"offical\" max.

but im sure then Zimer will go onrage (and i still dont know how he beat the \"game max\" of 255)

You have to be lucky that the game not freezes.

255 is the coin amount that the game can save.

If only he wanted a trick us. I never managed to get the glitch. Except with the bomb before it explodes once the first level of the game when I saw him become part after a few minutes, I dropped the piece clone, but no piece appeared. Poof! Disappeared.

Check \"myles\" on youtube to know how to get the glitch right

speedruntrainer :

You have to be lucky that the game not freezes.

255 is the coin amount that the game can save.

That definitely shouldn't be allowed when the ONLY way to get a record is through glitching. Requiring a game not to freeze is not a skill

LOL. No I'm a very skilled guy, I can even manage my luck on a non-freeze console using glitches

Mods, admins - shall we leave the discussion and decision in your hands now, or are you happy to keep the discussion open for a bit?

As far as I'm concerned, it shouldn't be allowed. When a record requires the game not to crash, or requires no skill whatsoever, it shouldn't be allowed. I recommend that the records are capped at what is considered the legitimate maximum and anything higher than that is either knocked down to that maximum or deleted entirely

As I said in one of the million other topic about this, I don't think you can ban just 1 glitch when there's alot of other glitches which are much more stupid then this one.

I just think there needs to be some system in place regarding glitches. Arcade has said before that records that require no skill shouldn't be on the site, so surely the same should apply with glitches?

Ok, remove all glitches on every mario kart game then.

What about a system of rules per game? Like CS has. Some glitches are allowed and some not.

Long time ago, there was a settlement by game, but it was a problem to decide whether a glitch should be accepted or not. the best example, and the one who decided we accept all glitches, the spaceflying and snaking on f-zero GX. Many good players used it and said that it was part of the game, and many other good players said that it destroyed the game. can not make an objective decision, the two clans were reasons at the same time.

So for less problems, we decided we accept all glitches on all games.

But old rules may seem ridiculous now, so I accepted a new debate for specific rules for each game, I expect the advice of many people on this topic or another create specificlty for this debate.

People have diffrent opinion on what \"no skill\" glitches are and wether they should be allowed or not. It would be stupid to change the rules now that have worked just fine, changing a rule would only cause trouble.

I think, at times, it's fairly obvious what glitches require no skill or not. for example, your console not freezing requires no skill. that's not an opinion, that really should be a fact

Division X :

People have diffrent opinion on what \"no skill\" glitches are and wether they should be allowed or not. It would be stupid to change the rules now that have worked just fine, changing a rule would only cause trouble.

It's true, but one example that I think all people are OK it's the lon lon race on Ocarina where people can have 0\"00 time for the record. As you might know 0\"46 is the max time with a no fault race

^Yeah, Obstacle Course should be disallowed. You don't even \"play\" that race, and it doesn't require any skill, and it make 0.00 time possible.

I would say same about SSBM Classic, Adventure and All-Star charts. Aside from those Obstacle Course points, it shouldn't even work at all versions, and without glitch it's unmaxed chart = good competition chart. 75 ruined charts...

...personally I'm ok with glitches that make any sense.

Arcade :

But old rules may seem ridiculous now, so I accepted a new debate for specific rules for each game, I expect the advice of many people on this topic or another create specificlty for this debate.

Arcade, you may change the topic title to \"Discussion over which glitches should be allowed or not\"(or any title you feel is appropriate, I don't mind.

I, shockingly enough, push that ALL coin glitches on Mario 64 are banned. They require no skill and in the case of some records, require the game not to freeze. It takes away from competition on the records and removes any reward for obtaining records.

Also, requiring the game to not freeze violates the rules of the site anyway I feel, as you breach \" - Modification of the game's code\", albeit involuntarily in this case

I hope that if this suggestion goes unopposed(or is favoured by the majority) that it is passed

Division X - If you wish to discuss any glitches you feel should and shouldn't be allowed in this topic, that's fine by me

As this is going completely unopposed, to the point that not even the users using the glitch are defending it's use, I recommend that this motion is passed.

When users aren't even defending why a glitch they use should be allowed, there's clearly an issue with the glitch