[OK] Zuma Deluxe cheats and cheaters

First of all, stop distorting facts!

zephyraz :

If you made 1 year effort in this game, I started this game in December 2011…

This refers to time spent on this site. I started to play Zuma since 2006. However this is not important. What really metters is the fact that I spent up to 3h/day playing mostly Zuma, that's why I was one of the most active players in the "Top of the Week". No way you could be even close to this in all your time spent on Zuma (especially since you had many more games than I did).

zephyraz :

and as a very good expert of this game

Let's be serious! Most of your records are made in categories that should not exist (combos and points...which could be play at infinity).
As for your speed, in case it wasn't noticed, you are mostly on the last places (with very bad best times, sometimes not even getting to ace time). It is really surprising that this fact is not taken into consideration since this disqualifies you to even have an opinion on the subject.

zephyraz :

remember that there was at least 10 to 30 or 50 people behind these records, it is not at all respectful for them ! You are too agressive in your terms, already...

There is only one category  with 50 players (Adventure-Best Time-Level 1-1) in which you are on the 28th place. The only records you have 30 people behind you are  -at I said before- in "Combos" and "Points".In "Best Time" you have very few people behind you (and that's what I was referring to).

zephyraz :

I know the strategies to obtain records.

Obviously you don't. At list on "Best Time" you don't. The best players: me, Blitz, Sted...and others (whom you prefer not to mention because it would weaken your case) have something in common. It's clear when you look at their proofs. Anybody who realy knows the game can see it. If you are such an expert, you should noticed it.

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zephyraz :

I admit that I am directly interested if your records are removed.

This is actually the real reason behind your dirty, unjustified campaign, and there is much more to say about it but enough for now.

P.S.: As you asked, I made a few videos, and I intend to add some more.

Zephy, you might have to go to cyberscore to talk to blitz about his scores

Blitz hasn't been active since 1 year and 2 months ago on VGR ; on Cyberscore about 3 months. Records like those made by Blitz are common on Cyberscore because they have a lot of good fast players. However, Zephyraz's interest is to get back his undeserved first place in Zuma using any methods, no matter how unethical they are ; so why would he be interested in going in a site where he has no account ?
By accusing Blitz, he would have to accuse more than 10 excellent players with similar scores. They would surely laugh at him !

I was merely offering zephyraz a solution to his problem, please don't drag me into the petty "having a go" at each other bit

@psr: I let Mandalore transmit the informations about them to Cyberscore admins.


@FilipJack: one more time, you answered with a lot of agressiveness, with wrong arguments and details. I will not fall into this behavior, because I respect yourself as every person here, but I can "demolish" (you like this word, but I prefer say "correct") details you mentioned upper. No need insist again in this way, there is more important things in life, we are here to compare healthy scores, understood ?

I just want to focus on making the situation more clear. For the moment, facts and appearances are against you, the accused person who must defend with sensed answers.
You finally decided to send some videos, it's a late but good point for you, thanks.
I will then check them and tell you if it satisfies me or not.

Please concentrate on the main Zuma cheat topic, the way to obtain such scores and the video proofs I ask, not in other personal stuffs with no value.

EDIT: I need more time to study things in detail, in normal conditions.
I think I will be able to give you an answer in April, not before, sorry.
Please let this topic open until I answer, and let people watch these strange videos.

I can finally deal with this problem.

Sorry if the problem waited a lot, but I can’t do better for technical reasons.
Thanks FilipJack2000 for your videos, even if some of them doesn’t match entirely with what was required. Except for combos, you sent videos for each record category, I appreciate this.
To remember, the main thing I reproach to you (and to BlitzPhoenix98 also) is a modification of the speed of the game, which can consequently explain others crazy records.
Here is what I think about your videos:

Spiral Doom Sungod 16-21: amazing speed. I can’t understand why you don’t get the Stats screen after SG20, strange.  

Spiral Doom Sungod 15  32760 points: nice, amazing speed

Long Range jag6 best time 1’00: interesting, because BlitzPhoenix made 57s here, and after others made not better than 1min36 or 2min I think it seems impossible to have such “real-time” speed, already visible in the beginning of the video, where the speed seems already modified ! I checked that in different computers, and it seems now OK.

Shrine of Quetzalcoatl jag 7; best time 57s . Me : 1’10; I don’t care about it I’m close to you

Spiral of Doom rab 2; 78 gaps in 2’29; normal way of play, I accept this one, but that clearly don’t explain how you can do the same kind of gaps and time in eag 4 levels (like in Lair of the Mud Snake) , not rab 2…

Sun Stone jag 2; 36 max chains: OK, now I better understand what you mean with your “double click “ strategy, which I don’t use a lot. That could explain me lot of your max chain scores, but not how you finished them so quick, where I continue to have debts, sorry. Nevertheless, good point for you, I recognize.

Landing Pad eag 4; 13 max combos: your strategy is different than mine. I did not really replay this level enough for records to tell you if it is really different from the normal game, but it seems legit, I recognize also.

Long Range Jag1; 81 gaps: now I better understood why you can cumulate so much gaps in such times, even in jaguar levels (even if this one is jag1, so easier): because of the double click strategy, that I very rarely used.

Riverbed Mosaic jag5; 4 coins: the way you obtain 4 coins is legit, for sure. This record don’t interest me, I can do the same I think, it’s not surprising. But (!), what is really interesting is the way you push all the ball received after 2’27, when the yellow bar is completed: I sincerely don’t understand how you can keep the vision and the launch of balls until 2’57: more than 60 balls launched in 20 seconds !!! This looks almost not human, there is something strange . I would like to see a best time record, around 1min30s or more, in the same conditions: if the speed of launching balls is the same, there should be a cheat somewhere, I can’t believe this !

Breath of Ehecatl Eag1 best time 15s: Ok, you’re fast (and lucky).


Everywhere, you finally maintain an incredible speed for watching the ball colors, studying the balls chain and launching them in the right place. This is combined to a little double-click strategy that I rarely used, or that I mostly don’t need, and it finally makes a big difference with huge records.
Even with your videos, I will continue to debt about all of that because it simply seems not human, sorry. I recently learned (and confirmed here) that some professional guys can make more than 200 actions per minute, and this is certainly your case, congratulations.
But I will not debt about you used the cheat I mentioned before, because what I saw isn’t the cheat I referred. Hopefully for you and others, because this could be very sad to recognize that this kind of cheat can destroy the game competition.
The cheat I discovered, combined to your incredible records, made me disgusted with Zuma, and with some PC games.

Now, I will stop my accusations of cheating for you and BlitzPhoenix. I will also tell this to a Cyberscore member. I hope (for you, others and me) that nobody will use the awful cheat in the future.

I will now try to recover some records I hope I can reach, differently than you, but with less implication than before.
But now I know how fast you seems to be, I will probably not loose time to try to beat the Best Time records, even if I like the strong competition. And it was also the case before, with BlitzPhoenix times.
It means that I never really fighted for best times in this game (that you ignored, and explain your stupid and precocious judgments), and it will continue to be like that.

Also, remember this: as a controller, my role is to detach myself from my personal case, and that’s what I tried to do for this case. I mentioned I was directly concerned about this problem, but it’s only a logical coincidence: you need to understand, if you are smart (and like I already said before…), that of course accusers played the same game than accused people ! Nothing personal, understood ?
I will keep my eyes open for your next records in VGR, and I hope for you that you will continue to show your speed skills in others games in VGR. Good luck.

If I understood correctly after reading at your anwser Zephyraz, BlitzPhoenix and FilipJack aren't suspected anymore so this topic can be closed?
I know there's a point on editing games configuration but I think this may be done in a separate topic without any accusation.

Are you ok with that?

Even if what I saw was not a cheat, I will keep my own debts about some of their amazing speed records, but it is not enough to justify that they have cheated.
So yes, I'm OK with FilipJack and BlitzPhoenix, you can close the topic.