Ghost Pilots

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03/05/2019 23:38
#1
toto64 77 messages
Ghost Pilots - High Score - 13.8m

Only a handful of players in the world can finish this game, and his score is higher than any other known record. So that's yet another fake record...
04/05/2019 08:42
#2
GTi 615 messages
Correct.

The current WR = 13,515,100
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7NLcZJC8t0
Ok, the video was probably played on MAME but it's a full video of +1hr.

I already asked to move all posted (Zimer) Virtual Wii scores of TG16/PCE to a dedicated Virtual Wii platform or just remove them as it is not played on a genuine machine. But no reaction from admins here. hum

A simple screenshot wouldn't pass for me.

Just my 5 cents.
04/05/2019 14:23
#3
Basile 5278 messages
To be honest, that's the real first time where I have doubts on "new" Zimer's scores here.
I know really well this game, and I know that it's now out on Switch (since 1 week already).

To finish this game without die, you have to be in GOD MODE, this is one hard game.
And to beat 13M score, you have to be more than that. So, when I saw a score that is more than 13M and is even more of what we knew before (the game is out since 28 years now!!), so since 28 years, I obviously have some doubts about it.
It must be a trick, or something that allow him to reach such a score.

And on the NEO GEO, with the shitty stick of the system, it's really hard to even beat the game, so yes, I'm really confused about Zimer's score here.

This time, I will be more than happy to see a full run video (only an hour long appxmtly) of this UNBELIEVABLE score. This has to be seen, for the game itself and the videogame history.
Cause if it's legit, then it's a new page on the history
04/05/2019 18:39
#4
[Zimer] 470 messages
Some information was posted in discord.
04/05/2019 22:04
#5
toto64 77 messages
This is played with 99 lives and save states, even my cat can score as much. This is a total joke and can't compare to original hardware in any way: horrible decision again.
Switch has a series called ACA which GP is part of, and the only way to track games from this series is to allow only scores made in hi-score mode: in this mode all settings are default and you have only one credit (no multiplayer) and of course no save states or autofire. The proof has to show hi-score mode ranking with your username.
06/05/2019 12:09
#6
zephyraz 3282 messages
I think people who played this game are the most concerned because they're familiar with it.
Fortunately, toto64 adds details to his 1st accusation.
I don't think that use 99 lives is prohibited by the game, but however, if Zimer used these savestates on Switch, then we should check it by video, and separate scores from the original version.

So, concerning this details, and due to the past of Zimer, I think we should delete this score, and oblige him to proove by video. So I asked a video to Zimer.


In a second time, if he showed he used Switch with savestates, the game Ghost Pilots should be created for Switch only.

I remember that the main place to express yourself is here in VGR, not in Discord.

In a third time, I asked to Zimer here to finally make a list of games he played and where there is a possibility of savestates (for WiiU and Switch, and maybe Wii also).
Because every game where there is savestates should be separated from the original ones.
It's really time to take care about this, because now rankings are possibly badly impacted.
06/05/2019 23:26
#7
toto64 77 messages
This video doesn't prove anything, this is played in original mode which enables save states. The only way to prove a score is:
1/ full video.
2/ photo from hi-score mode.
29/05/2019 11:15
#8
zephyraz 3282 messages
A Proof Ask was done and accepted for this score.
As toto64 asked,

toto64 :

(...)The only way to prove a score is:
1/ full video.
2/ photo from hi-score mode.
02/07/2019 01:30
#9
toto64 77 messages
I noticed that his score was reactivated but for some reason there's no proof. If you look at #2  on the photo is old zimer score of 13.6m done on Wii which differs from Switch version in that you have 3 lives only and you can't change it. So if he did 13.8m with 99 lives and save states then it's impossible that he did 13.6m with 3 lives without modding his console and download illegally games and cheating tools.
We all know he doesn't own any classic system nor the games he plays, and as said before it's not correct to compare scores done on legit original system with scores done on modern modded system that allow to download infinite number of cheating tools.

In my opinion scores achieved from modded systems should be banned.


PS: Also for more transparency the name of staff member who validates submissions should be public like on CS.
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