Aprooving of First Place Platin Medal scores

Hi

i know we had this Story long time ago with all first places of Gold Medals, but since we have Platin Medals, i think its more realistic an fair to proof them.

What i mean is: if you have a new Game with a new score, you will stay there with a Gold Medal (you should proof it imo, but its not a must)
Then a 2. Gamer are post a better score and get the Platin Medal. I think its not unfair that this guy with the new better score should proof it.

The rule can be called like:
\"Proof your Platin Medals - If you are good enough to get a Platin Medal, then you should are good enough to proof them too\"

This is just a idea, but i think its now better to manage with Maxed score/Best time Platin Medals to proof, as with the thousands of Gold Medals.

I've got an idea,

To get your platinium medal instead of a gold medal when another player come on a game, you must proof your score. Else, you stay with a gold medal.

It's not too bad an idea, personally I would like it if you got a notification that you would need to prove the score

in my opinion, all records should be supported with photos. and if he had suspected fraud should be proved with videos ... that all records. but, is my opnion

That doesn't really have much to do with the topic at hand, since we're only discussing first place records. And a strange comment indeed by you, since you haven't proven any of your records

Both opening posts are good ideas

As I said earlier (in my opinion) ... surely prove that all my records with photos and even videos if necessary. you think only the major platinum-level score? naum other records need to be proven? I think differently. but affirmed that it was said that's my opinion.

My opinion is that it should stay like that. No need to prove even 1st place. With the prize that are coming for VGR points, people will already proove more without being obligated to do so. We don't have enoughh mods anyway for having that much proof in the 1st place.

As I said, I find it weird that you said people need to prove all records when you don't prove any yourself. Saying \"it's my opinion\" a thousand times doesn't make it any less wrong

TRINDEL :

With the prize that are coming for VGR points, people will already proove more without being obligated to do so.

such as? I've always assumed VGR points didn't mean much and were a fun stat more than anything else

Djon's idea isn't bad.

(laughs) ... ok you have a point, what I meant is that since you're posting a record would not hurt to prove right away. then you tell me (But you do not have evidence of their records) and I would answer: logical! is not required.

I admit than Djon's idea is the best I heard up to now about proving scores.

I agree with you, Undead, and Djon's idea does not look bad.

Djon's idea is very good,

but maybe it's enuff if u can ask 4 proove without reasons

(unproven platinum scores only and if u r #2 with proven score)

just an idea...

nice i love the \"no proof? no Platin!\" Idea.

So all lazy Hardcore Highscoregamer lose places if they dont want to proof there scores

But for that we must make a program for that right? More time investing = longer time to w8 ppl proof there scores

Oui mais c'est totalement injuste ! Imaginez, 90-95% des personnes ne viennent plus sur le site, cela detruiré presque tout le Top 100 médailles !
Tous les joueurs qui ont passé des jours, peut etre des mois a acquérir tout ça et qui ne prouvent rien, a cause d'une flemme ou parce que les uploads étaient trop long, je n'en sais rien, a la fin, ne se retrouveront avec... rien!
Je demande donc a bannir cette idée et laissez ça tel quel !

ENGLISH :
Yes but it's totally unfair! Imagine, 90-95% of people no longer come to the site, that destroy almost all the Top 100 medals!
All players who have spent days, maybe months to acquire all this and prove nothing, was due to laziness or because uploads were too long, I do not know, at the end, no will meet with ... nothing!
I therefore request a ban idea and let it as is!

You just forgot one thing, an important one: It's a good idea to have to prove a platinum when you send it, but, later, when you'll quit VGR you'll get some mails to warn you that your scores you sent (maybe 1 year ago) which will be deleted or will lose value because someone have sent a \"shitty score\" or a lower than yours.
Also it's impossible to force a member to prove every platinums he got on VGR. (Just imagine if the firsts of the Top 100 Medals have to do it, it's quite impossible)

this is a valid viewpoint, Zimer.

@viviengaetan: i can say you a funny party of this: yes we have here so many Top Ranked Platin Member with many time to beat a score but its SOOO impossible to proof it?

i know what you mean, some ppl must proof over 1000 of scores then but... why not? I dont say all scores are fake but we all know that we have here many emu user, cheater, faker ect. in the past.

Im not happy if i play a Game for a Highscore with the top 3 player on a score without a proof. Some of such scores are \"immortal\"... that mean i can write what i want, they will never be prooven because the guy are maybe inactive or prooven on a other Highscore site(where?). Really: if someone dont care about to proof his score on this site, why he post it? He just dont care about anymore about the score on this site if he never come back.

I dont think we need to \"keep\" some old good scores if they maybe never true. For me i dont care about my scores on cyberscore anymore(because i dont visit the site to often), but if someone want to see a proof some of my scores, then i will proof it. I hope you see what i mean. Why we have some of the BEST Highscoregamer here, working maybe weeks on 1 best score, if they are to lazy to proof the rest of the scores? Why we have a Highscoresite here, if i must check the internet for his proof on a other site? Thats realy the wrong way.

Look a \"Flothaboss\" and tell me again its impossible to proof that many scores...

Here's my take on this issue, since this fascinates me:

It's a matter of what people want versus what is actually feasible. While Djon's idea actually sounds quite good, not everyone -can- prove their records, because they may not have the time, and so forth. Essentially forcing everyone to prove their top scores, however good it may be, is more or less a backfiring idea. Flothaboss is an exception to the rule rather than part of the rule itself. Only 24 members have proven more than 1000 scores, and there are plenty of members that have many submissions and not a lot of proof.

Now, you may say \"Why bother submitting if you can't prove your score, for whatever reason?\". It's because the player is free to. Forcing any degree of proof with submissions leads to less submissions overall, because there are very many people that would rather not take the time to prove scores because of a few reasons:

1. Too much time (This is a time-consuming process, do not deny it. Especially if one has hundreds or thousands of proofs to do.)
2. Don't have a clear enough camera
3. Don't have any means of proving (not likely, but possible).

I could think of more, but that is the top 3.

My point here is that we have a report system because we don't force people to prove their scores. If someone wants to see proof with reason, they report it. Is it perfect? Nope. However, it is probably better than forcing proof, however justifiable it may be.

Sure, we have cheaters. Will forcing proof prevent cheaters coming by? Absolutely not. Instead, what will begin to likely happen is proof that is faked. I wouldn't be surprised if that happened at least once if we forced proof.

In addition, if we were to implement this system, this should have been done from the beginning. Implementing this new system after the site has been up for years under a different system is unfair to those who have since let life take them from competing in video games, and might come back in years from now, maybe not. It's also possible (I hope not, but still, there is a point) that maybe a member has died at some point. You don't know that. Sure, you don't know if these old scores are true or not, but that goes for any unproven submission on this site, which, last I was aware, is still around 600k submissions, probably more.

Try to put your \"perfect situations\" aside and just think about it in a realistic way. Then, you can begin to understand why this just won't work.

Also, don't forget that there are charts on this site that need video proof to sufficiently prove the record, not just a picture.

Now back to Djon's idea. This actually doesn't -force- people to prove their scores, it just makes them prove their scores if they want a platinum medal. I don't see this as the worst idea, but it changes the meaning of \"platinum medal\" entirely, which is really meant to simply distinguish an untied gold versus a tied gold, not a proof in a tied chart versus multiple proofs in a tied chart/proven vs. unproven untied first place. I think this just turns the medal table away from \"Who's the best player?\" to \"Who has proved the most 1st place scores?\", which to me, undermines competition of the medal table.

Me personally, I do not mind proving scores, but this is not the case for everyone, and that's just the way it is.

lol you realy think the idea is bad if you get only a Platin Medal if you proof it?

I say it again: its super easy to write a better score on the top of a Game, but this dont say the score is true. What would you do if i just post 1, only 1 Top end scores/Time i a Game you like to play. Im sure you want to know if that score is right or wrong.

There was a time for me on cyberscore i was banned from the site because ppl thinking i want to quit and post many \"fake\" scores. I know my idea this time was to get the scores deleted because i dont got this games anymore, but i post on the same day my new Donkey Konga Scores too (many 1st places) and then i was blocked from the site because ppl thinking i just will post more and more fake scores. (for others: on cybersore is forbidden to let delete some scores if you ask for it) oh and why i was fast banned? yes because i dont proof the scores.

And the idea ppl dont have a good camera... you will realy say me ppl can buy many Games to make many scores but have no money to buy a good camera? You know we life in a time, there are many good cameras out to make good pictures, im sure there are some cheaper one as 1 Game himself.

But i know why ppl dont want to change this into a rule of prooving scores: its work, omg you must spend 5 min to make a picture and upload it on the site, but you have weeks to beat a super score/time...
The other Problem of some games are they dont safe your score, older Games for NES, GB, SNES ect.
There you cant say: hey i did a super score but forgot to make a picture. No Proof =never happen.

i have also some good old scores of games i played the time i was 7-10 years old (now im 24)
you realy want that i post this scores without a proof and if ppl ask for a proof i dont must proof it because i cant? I hope you see what i mean. Its just this that maybe some scores are made, but they never exist anymore. Stay alone 24h on 1 leg and then talk about 1 day later with other ppl, im sure they dont think you realy can stay 24h on 1 leg.

Oh and if you want to know it right: yes im tired of ppl they are to lazy to proof world records, hundrets of ppl post a score, but the top score is not prooven, big LOL if you ask me.