[zimer]

I suspect his submission on Metal Slug for Neo Geo was obtained by using multiplayer. The proof he submited was taken after the game restarted so it cannot verify the number of credits left during the game. In order to verify this you need a photo taken after each stage.

This should help:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOhvL9feBPo

That video is with 3 lives.
I played MS for NeoGeo with 5 lives.

I am not talking about Metal Slug Anthology on Wii which is a different version, this video is proof for this version but not for Neo Geo version.

toto64 :

I am not talking about Metal Slug Anthology on Wii which is a different version, this video is proof for this version but not for Neo Geo version.

If you look at what Zimer says, he says the video he linked is played with 3 lives, but he claims that he play Metal Slug for NeoGeo with 5 Lives meaning that the video isn't proof of his score, possibly only proof of the method which he used.

Edit: Are you referring to this game? Metal Slug
If so, at the top of the page, under the picture of the game where it says Platform, it says NeoGeo and Wii meaning both of those version of the game are accepted. Whether that should be the case, I am not sure. If it has enough gameplay differences to warrant a split, then you can make a topic in the appropriate section of the forum.

Yes i'm referring to the game you linked and no, it is the same as Neo Geo. What i'm talking about is that if you take an in-game photo it will show the number of credits at the bottom of the screen. If the side of unused player has +1 credit compared to the side of used player then multiplayer was not used.

I used my video as reference because I had an accusation in past in Anthology version with the same reason.

I could attempt to get another score, but score would be lower since skills have been losing due time without playing the game.

Looks legit to me
https://www.video-games-records.com/metal-slug-hi-score-high-score-record-r42458.html

If you look at the games, you see that PMniac used 3 continues to obtain his score ;)
Typical with Capcom/SNK games the last number shows how many continues you used.

cheers

I'm not talking about continues, i'm talking about multiplayer: there's a timer in the game with fixed value set to 60 and when reaches 00 you lose 1 life. Now whenever a player dies that timer resets to 60. Skip to 08:25 in the video: Metal Slug co-op
That means you can use 2 players to increase time and therefore score if you use it where you sacrifice your lives as shown at 01:02:00 here: Metal Slug - leeching But whenever you use a credit it's reflected at the bottom of the screen for each player: before you start each player has 04 credits and when you start you have 03 left. The problem is the submited proof was taken during demo so there's no way to know if 2 players was used.

I tried to do the math here.

There's a video in youtube where someone plays Neo Geo version with 3 lives and score is similar to Zimer's score of the Anthology version that Zimer played with 3 lives. Zimer has 60k more at the end of the game.

In Mission 5 where they sacrifice their 2 lives, it seems you can get about 1m to 1.2m more points here. And if Zimer can get 3.5m with 3 lives in the game, I think 4m with 5 lives shouldn't be a problem. He said he played with 5 lives.

I agree that the proof pic should be taken after the run to see credits used. And I can't wait for the next version of VGR, so we can start adding rules for each game.

Again this is not about Anthology. In Anthology time is fixed to 70 instead of 60, and difficulty is higher than Neo Geo, which leads to way higher score. So the proof for Anthology can't be used for Neo Geo since both cannot be compared. Remember in 2012 i already exposed his fraud yet no one investigated. It's only logical to ask for correct proof from those abusing the system, isn't it?

Ok. I was just trying to see if his score is possible without use of multiplayer. When playing with 5 lives, you should be able to get +1 mil more points pretty easily (in Mission 5) compared to otherwise identical run with 3 lives, right?

If Zimer can attempt another run and record a full video of it, I think that would be the best answer here.

You can get +405k more points with each extra life on Neo Geo. And yes, full video is required when pretending to WR. So as it stands the submited proof is not valid.

toto64 :

You can get +405k more points with each extra life on Neo Geo. And yes, full video is required when pretending to WR. So as it stands the submited proof is not valid.

There are many WRs here and in CS that doesn't have videos.

Smoka :

If Zimer can attempt another run and record a full video of it, I think that would be the best answer here.

My equipement and my Youtube account are limited. As I said before, my skills decreased and of course score was lower. I did a video of Final mission in where score is lower. I had bad luck with items and many mistakes but it have strenght to compete with submitted score playing alone. I'll upload later.

If full video isn't possible then don't bother with video and simply take a photo after each mission.

Proof sent to a proof admin in discord.

Current proof is not valid, for correct proof is needed a photo at the end of each mission for following score progression and detecting cheats.

Any news on this?

I remember he sent that video when his scores were deleted on CS: Metal Slug - Neo Geo
This is Neo Geo played with 5 lives with score of 3.4m. That means his score of 4m was obtained with cheats.

The first score he posted was 3.4m with 5 lives and then he made 4m with the same settings. In this game there is a limit of points you can obtain from each mission, so if he made 3.4m with 5 lives then it's impossible he made 4m with the same settings.
I think is now time to make a decision and end this fraud.

Moreover that means his score of 3.5m on Anthology is fake too (MS1 - Anthology) : the difference of score is about + 400k more points with the same settings (3 lives) on NeoGeo, so 3.5m on Anthology= 3.1m on NeoGeo. The thing is he scored 3.4m with 5 lives on NeoGeo with extra lives worth + 800k more points which  gives a score of 2.6m with 3 lives, so 2.6m doesn't match with 3.1m on the same settings.