Many same Scores in Bowser's Inside Story

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21/08/2014 02:38
#1
Undead 726 messaggi
Hi, like in this Thread in the past [url=http://www.video-games-records.com/ok-many-same-max-scores-in-kirby-s-dream-land-gb-forum-t7330-p1.html#msg_108796][OK] Many same Max scores in Kirby's Dream Land (GB)[/url] i ask again for prooving every first place scores on Mario&Luigi Bowser Inside Story. The "test" on Kirby's Dream Land has prooven, that not every score are true (or ppl are to lazy to proof them) There was in fact 7! deleted scores and they will still stay there if me and some helpers did not asking for proofs. Now my Problem is: i made this again on Bowser's Inside Story and was asked of Lucario why i made this. At the end all my request was refused because of my "not so good reason" to ask for proofs. But still after this i started again to ask for proofs and open this Thread let ppl know we already made it on another Game and it was not a bad idea to ask for proofs. [url=http://www.video-games-records.com/mario-luigi-bowser-s-inside-story-challenge-mode-the-gauntlet-groupe-g7498.html]Bowser's Inside Story[/url] And its not like i ask just for fun, i made the same score and i proof it, so theres nothing to say like "hey, you do this just for trolling" or something like that.
21/08/2014 12:54
#2
Lucario 4060 messaggi
I asked an administrator what he thought. He told me, as I thought, "These are claims of unfair evidence." What you do not understand there? You have that too for Ryuto BCL on Pokémon Rumble Blast then you have equalized to each of his records. He never proved. What I do not understand, you are attacking players like me and Emperor to prove a tie record easily when we have already proven maximum scores elsewhere. I prove my majority scores on all my games. I do not understand your logic of wanting to ask for proof to everyone who equalities. Someone had done in the past with Super Smash Brawl with ROB I think for the training mode and 35 was equal to 999. I d'ont agree to request evidence every time you straighten an unproven record.
21/08/2014 23:48
#3
Undead 726 messaggi
Thats it what i hate on this discussion. I told you i asked for proofs for every 1. Place on the scoreboard and you have problems with that choose your score too... not because i think your score is wrong, i actually want to see that all prooven like me, thats all. What is so bad with this? Why i have not the right to ask for proofs if other ppl have the same score like me? Other things are: why you think you dont "need" to proof them, i dont think you are more special then everyone else on the site (exept of the fact that you are a proof admin). The other thing is, whats here realy the problem? Do you have problems of sendings proofs for Pokemon Rumble? No, so why have a problem with the Bowser Inside Story scores? Its the same small work, just a different Game. Yes we all are skilled Gamers, but why its so hard for the most to show what they have done. Its like: "hey look at my new score (just numbers), but if you want pictures, then ask for it" So tell me, why you have such Problems to just proof them if asked? Im still not happy with the "you prooved 3% of all your scores, now you are free to post more scores without" and im not feeling i must avoid asking Proof Admins or ppl with 50% prooved scores for prooving other scores. Like i show you in Kirby's Dream Land. Even Basile's and Triggier's score was deleted and they are like you and me with many scores and many proofs. (Same for Emperor and everyone else) Even i was not "save" for an "ask for proof" in the past and there was only 1 day time difference before my score was under investigation. Also i dont like you guys thinking i "abuse" the option for asking, for me its more "unfair" for "its not allowed to ask this Gamer XY for proofs" just because they have some prooven scores.
23/08/2014 06:20
#4
Dark*Zimer 21 messaggi
I understand you Undead. Also a thing that annoys me is that non proven scores are more trustable than proven which is bad.
23/08/2014 15:59
#5
thelegendarypsr 2233 messaggi
No they aren't zimer
23/08/2014 20:16
#6
Dark Eon Master 1917 messaggi
[quote=thelegendarypsr]No they aren't zimer[/quote] He proved every single Score he could and was still questioned while Others with less than 10% Proof were "Trusted" and Proof Admins would refuse Proof Requests to them. That is what he means.
25/08/2014 02:19
#7
Undead 726 messaggi
It would be nice if we can get some answers of this situation. We have a "ask for proof" system, but for using this system, we need to ask for it first (what a strange way to do it) What is with the other Administrator where was thinking i abuse the system? (again: i made the same score and proof it, why its "unfair" to ask for proofs for every same none proved score) If you guys ask me: if its so hard to use the proof system, why we have it? The limit is already down to 3 per day and still we have discussion about it. I used my limit of 3 per day and still get nothing but time wasting (the scores i asked for proofs needed 3-4 days) Again: we asked for proofs for Kirby's Dream Land and there was many deleted scores, it should be reason enough to ask for proofs if to many ppl have the same maxed score like yourself (even if its easy to reach) It shows us, that some score are just posted but never thinking they must proof it (easy to post, if you have such thoughts) the remaining are just lazy, but we never know it 100% (is lazy the right thing for an Highscore Gamer?) Since the Kirby scores was deleted, none of them tried it again to post an proof them (why?) For me its still a good way to show that there is no problem to ask for proof (if you have the same score or someone beat you) Thats also the reason why we have so small numbers of ppl they already ask for proofs: the remaining don't want to waste time in a system that are the most time get refused. In fact: ALL first place scores without proof "can be fake" even if we know that we have trusted ppl here, but noone knows it 100% and thats why it should be no problem to ask them to proof there good scores. Even better: it would be a good way to proof yours scores without even get asked to do it.
25/08/2014 02:33
#8
Lucario 4060 messaggi
I disagree that all the max. records score are fake. Are you falling on the head? Do you want me to make a video suddenly gone? I do not think it's fair play Undead your case. I'm sorry, It's stupid bullshit. Ask a player who is equal to you when you make a record, no problem. Why pick on other quality players like Emperor91 passing occasionally here? If you want to ask her evidence, go Cyberscore. Dah! There are limits between asking someone to proof because the score is difficult to achieve than just saying: "This score is easily doable".
25/08/2014 06:28
#9
Dark Eon Master 1917 messaggi
If you believe so, Go Ahead Undead. Maybe this site needs more players who ask for proof. If there is no danger that someone will ask for proof on their records, people will not care to post with proof. If Proof Requests are more common all over the site, we might get more players proving their scores as soon as they post it so they won't have to worry about getting requested to show proof later when they might not have the game or the trouble of re-doing the score. I say go for it. Keep Asking for Proof and the Proof Admins should not Refuse immediately, but You should not put reasons like "I Posted proof, so should they". Only talk about the Record in question and why it should be proven.
25/08/2014 10:15
#10
greendayseb 422 messaggi
Well, i usually ask for proof, even for trustable player, when i have a doubt. You have to talk about the record itself, as DarkEonMaster says ! I never get refused, because i say something like: "I'm not sure this player has the level to do as good as his time seems to be. I would like to see a proof of this." Really, i understand the problem you ask for, and i don't understand why admin doesn't accept your ask for proof demand. I advise you to say something like i do when i'm asking for a proof, it always works.
25/08/2014 15:00
#11
Undead 726 messaggi
that i actualy did. My "normal" asking message is like: "it would be nice to see all the scores proven like i did, it should be no problem to simple make a picture of the score like me :)" May i must use some words like: "it need some [u]time[/u] to reach the specific location ingame and make the score" But whats realy the difference to ask like its a "harder" score as in real, just to get the same result at the end = Score under investigation. If i ask for same scores, the message will be always the same. I think ppl like Lucario understand it wrong. I did not write all scores without proof are fake, i wirte "can be fake" (the reason to use the proof system) just to the fact, that everyone on the site have the option to simple post a number in a game and hope no one cares about (like the most same score with many ppl in) Was Lucario missunderstand: he feels like a good Gamer and he is, but if someone set his score under investigation, hes like me "hey im a trusted gamer, no one need to set my score under investigaton" trust me Lucario i know that feeling of 1 of my scores was set under investigation even WITH my nearly 100% proven scores(1 day difference, i had not the chance to proove it before this happen), but most of your scores a older then just 1 day, so you had enough time to avoid getting asked. And again, i did not just choose your score alone, i do not pick specific Gamer, i pick every Gamer with the same score. No one is more special like you and me :ok: Its not like i want ppl should leave the site if they can't/don't want to proof, but a more clear way to have scores on the site they not just looks like a boring number. Its also not like i search a specific Gamer do it like "hey i don's like this guy, now i set all his scores under investigation so they have more work to do as just posting numbers" I will ask for more proofs today, but i will try to use another (better) message, even its not realy a difference at the end if you ask me. (btw: i write here long messages without translator, so if there is something hard to understand or maybe can be understand "wrong" pls tell me and i try it make it more clear)
26/08/2014 13:24
#12
Lucario 4060 messaggi
You're right Undead. But, you can not have someone to show 100% of its records. Okay for maximum records, but it's made ​​abusive. Not just for me, as for others. Even accepting your requests, only 2 prove in together. What good enough to ask each of the players maximum records you've done? Not much from having a chance to get an easy platinum (at least). Proof isn't a obligation. You can ask for evidence to players without it is still repetitive. It depends on the circumstances. I just do not agree in this scenario. In an RPG game, to advance in the game, you have to raise your level by defeating enemies. More your level, the better will be your chances of beating the Boss quickly.
27/08/2014 00:51
#13
thelegendarypsr 2233 messaggi
Undead, the reason "i proved it so they have to" isn't an acceptable reason. The proof calling system is used for dealing with scores you suspect are false.
27/08/2014 01:39
#14
Undead 726 messaggi
sure legendary, but for Kirby's Dream land you can say the same and at the end we got many deleted scores.(and no one can say they fake or not, but deleted is like "fake", otherwise they would be proven right?) Oh and for the inactive ppl scores: If they don't care about this scores anymore, then i see no problem if they get deleted (i think they get a message for proof via e-mail right?) btw: @Lucario: i don't want, that ppl need to proove every score, only the 1. places i made and for this im sure this will be less then 5% of your scores, because we both do not play all the same Games and also we both have not the same score in every Game we play. I just feel that some Scoregamer make it to easy like "hey many ppl have this score without proof, so i can post my score too" (real or fake? no one knows) Like Dark Eon Master writed it: ppl do not fear consequences of an "maybe fake" deleted score. Time is not the problem(we play hours and days for score) and we stay in year 2014 with digicam, handy cam, web cam, many ways to get a picture to your Computer for uploading it.
27/08/2014 14:01
#15
Lucario 4060 messaggi
If you want proof for Class 1, that's fine. I found that asking each one records the game to equalities too were requested. Do not get carried away when several players you equal to request evidence to everyone. It is no longer made ​​manageable after. If you can just modify your application by saying that this score request lucky and perfect execution for it to be achieved, it should be accepted. In this case, it depends on the level of your characters. Yes, peace a cake. But, sometimes too longer.
28/08/2014 21:10
#16
Undead 726 messaggi
hm.. right, you mean the small chance to have "critical" attack (more dmg) are based on luck and help beating the Bosses faster. And the skill part is timing based (also more dmg) Damn, this is a way better reason to ask :damn: I will change this of the last scores i need to ask for proof And ok, i will ask for the 1. Class 1. Place Scores first (lol, what a phrase^^) and then i will ask for the other scores if the 2 weeks proof time are done and we see what scores getting deleted.
03/09/2014 16:11
#17
Lucario 4060 messaggi
I all accepted your request for Class 1 on Mario & Luigi: Bowser's inside. But, I will not accept applications if it is to ask all ties. It is quite normal that anyone can put one on the easiest boss to beat. For the rest, it's more than luck and level your characters. I think it's unfair to ask whenever evidence players you straighten. Yet you know. Ask me any proof and I'll send it quickly. I do not like to waste my time proving each of my records equalizers. If I prove substantially all, why bother me with something as simple thing? Sometimes I wonder why some people insist so much to see evidence for each first place. We no longer count eventually.
03/09/2014 17:55
#18
Undead 726 messaggi
Thx Lucario. The one thing you say with "its easy to start with the easiest score to made" and ask for proof of the first Boss fight was maybe a misstake on my side (i still do not have all possible best scores in the Gauntlet) but the other thing is: 1 proven score in one game do not say that the other scores are also true. Like you said, the first will be the easiest score for everyone, but the following Boss Battles need higher Level. Maybe its unfair for asking your score to proof, but it will be also unfair if all other scores do not need to be proven and are "maybe" fake. Like i said, i will w8 until the 2 weeks are over before i ask for other scores. Maybe i looking for other scores in other Games with more skill needed like the [url=http://www.video-games-records.com/the-legend-of-zelda-phantom-hourglass-mini-games-sword-fight-hero-s-boat-record-r27027.html]999 Sword Fight Scores[/url] in Zelda Phantom Hourglass. We will see what happen after the 2 weeks are over :ok: btw: is reaching a first place here not the main goal for every score? I mean, if no one care about to reach the first place, then there will be no reason to play for Highscores right? :yes: I still wonder that we have here some Platinum scores unproven and the old 1. (now 2.) was proven in the past. Maybe the ppl a just a little scary to ask for proofs then. But thats another story.
03/09/2014 18:36
#19
Lucario 4060 messaggi
I play for records. Not to post anything. If there is a score / time that I did not, I have never scored. You ask me or other evidence that it is not abusive. I can assure you that all my records are real and true. For my Wii games with online rankings, I had to change because my Wii game Super Smash Brawl not working because of the double layer. There are only my records Guitar 5 I could recover. A statistics table of notes with the score for each song was available when selecting the song we want to play. If there are a few videos for a game that I did, you will see that I am competing to establish various records. Thank you for your comprehension!
13/09/2014 02:51
#20
Undead 726 messaggi
since the 2 weeks are over and almost ALL scores are now deleted, i ask you guys what is better: 1. to have this scores still unproven on the site without known they exist or 2. with all them now deleted and avoiding of "spaming" more "easy" scores. I know my art of seeing the score proof system is different, but i hope you guys see this i do this not just for fun or making ppl angry, but we have MANY scores like this on the site in different Games and im sure there are many scores without the right to stay there. (like i said, scores they are just posted because many other ppl have the same score) Before i start asking another line of scores to be proven i ask you guys: should i do this on the same Game until every 1st place score is proven or deleted(only scores i have too) or should i check different Games first to make it more clear whats score are true or false (my opinion would be Zelda PH for the fishing or Swordmaster scores)
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