More points for proven records

this all wouldn't be a problem if all proof requests would be accepted.
many of my proof requests of incredible scores are refused without any reason.
all unproven scores should be deleted more quickly after request.

shrouwehkuggah :

this all wouldn't be a problem if all proof requests would be accepted.
many of my proof requests of incredible scores are refused without any reason.
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Whereas other people who have been banned this year (Derezzed) got all of his proof accepted instantly even though his proof was fake just because his teammate was a moderator.

Anyway, this system is fine in theory but like others have said, it just wouldn't work.

Actually shrouwehkuggah, they have been refused for a reason: you never really gave enough arguments to allow the proof request, as far as I know.

\"150.000. Increible, Could he prove that, please?\" is for example not a valid reason for a proof request.

I can send you some examples of valid proof requests if you want


(People on CS have also a similar problem there, you should talk to sausage948 there with the link of this message, he'll understand what I mean here.)

CiaraJansonFan :

shrouwehkuggah :

this all wouldn't be a problem if all proof requests would be accepted.
many of my proof requests of incredible scores are refused without any reason.
.

Whereas other people who have been banned this year (Derezzed) got all of his proof accepted instantly even though his proof was fake just because his teammate was a moderator.

The same applied to his proof requests

Je vois que cet idee est tres critiquee, donc je pense qu'elle a peu de chances d'aboutir. Pour repondre a NP, je pense que cyberscore est encore moins une reference que VGR. Mais sur internet tu peux trouver des sites specialises dans certaines series qui ont une tres bonne reputation. VGR n'est pas reputee pour aucune serie et je pense que ca vient beaucoup du fait que les scores ne sont pas prouves, de plus je trouve que le fait qu'on ne puisse jamais etre sur de rien sur ce site apporte un climat un peu malsain sur le site (j'en suis un bon exemple en t'ayant accuser a tort).
Donc je voudrais au moins au minimum qu'on reprenne un peu ton idee d'un classement des ''points prouvees''. En fait moi je l'expliquerai comme si ca pourrait etre un classement qui ne prend en compte que les points des scores prouves. Donc ca serait un classement plus propre que le classement general classique. Je pense que la dessus, on peut mettre tout le monde d'accord.

I see that this idea has been heavily criticized, so I think it has little chance of success. To answer NP, I think cyberscore is even less than a reference VGR. But online you can find sites that specialize in certain series that have a very good reputation. VGR is not known for any series and I think it has much of the fact that the scores unproven, I find that being can never be sure of anything on this site provides a climate slightly insane on the site (I am a good example like you accuse the wrong).
So I would like at least one resume at least a little bit your idea of a classification of''points''proven. In fact I will explain as a ranking which counting only the points of proven scores. So it would be cleaner than the standard ranking. I think  we can get everyone in agreement.

shrouwehkuggah :

this all wouldn't be a problem if all proof requests would be accepted.
many of my proof requests of incredible scores are refused without any reason.
all unproven scores should be deleted more quickly after request.

Comme vient le dire NintendoPlayers, soit que vous ne donnez pas assez d'arguments pour les demandes de preuves que vous demandez à joueur, soit que l'argument n'est pas crédible. Ça m'arrive parfois ce genre de choses, mais je ne continuerai pas à m'archarner sur le même record si ma demande de preuve a été refusé. Ça s'appelle de l'abus. Dans ce cas, demander à un contrôleur pourquoi votre demande a été refusé. Il vous fera un plaisir de vous répondre à ce sujet.

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As just say NintendoPlayers or you do not give sufficient reasons for requests for evidence that you ask a player, is that the argument was not credible. It happens sometimes that kind of thing, but I do not continue on the same record m'archarner if my request for proof was denied. It's called abuse. In this case, a controller ask why your application was denied. He will be happy to reply to this topic.

This is very bad idea.
The record does not get any better when it is proven, if it is real.
The only thing that deserves less points, exactly 0, is a fake.
What needs to be improved on VGR is the detecting of fakes and they must be deleted quicker.
I know NintendoPlayers makes an awesome job in that, we just need more like him  

Robotrock :

So I would like at least one resume at least a little bit your idea of a classification of''points''proven. In fact I will explain as a ranking which counting only the points of proven scores. So it would be cleaner than the standard ranking. I think  we can get everyone in agreement.

That's exactly how I was thinking about. But that won't replace the rankings which are on the home page, it will be two more rankings. (I just want to be sure we exactly understood it in the same way.)
I'm pretty sure Flothaboss will be the leader of these rankings.

super_toon_link :

This is very bad idea.
The record does not get any better when it is proven, if it is real.
The only thing that deserves less points, exactly 0, is a fake.

I agree with you on that point.

super_toon_link :

What needs to be improved on VGR is the detecting of fakes and they must be deleted quicker.

I'm working on a way to detect them a lot faster, but it seems the deleting will be too much slow as always.

super_toon_link :

I know NintendoPlayers makes an awesome job in that, we just need more like him  

Thanks

thelegendarypsr :

CiaraJansonFan :

shrouwehkuggah :

this all wouldn't be a problem if all proof requests would be accepted.
many of my proof requests of incredible scores are refused without any reason.
.

Whereas other people who have been banned this year (Derezzed) got all of his proof accepted instantly even though his proof was fake just because his teammate was a moderator.

The same applied to his proof requests

I totally agree, and I would really like to solve this problem, but... it's not that easy to solve :p

Yes of course NP, im agree with you.

Good discussion,

Technically all is possible
- we can give more points to a prooved record, but i dont like thie idea
- same idea but only with the general ranking points, so we will have two official ranking
- we can ramdomly ask for proove first / second / third place which give a lot of points to the author ?
- other solutions.....

I think of something like this

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